Jim Fay and James Dobson are two of America's most visible, popular, and influential "experts" on the topics of parenting and discipline for children. Dobson is widely known for the "pro-family" political activism of Focus on The Family, the organization he founded and currently directs. He first made a name for himself as a child psychologist, whose bestselling books "Dare to Discipline," "The Strong-Willed Child," and "Parenting Isn't for Cowards," popularized the "biblically based" tough love approach to discipline. Dobson's Focus on The Family radio program is currently broadcast daily on over 1,600 stations. Fay is the founder of the Love and Logic Institute and a popular speaker and author, whose books (most of which are co-authored) include "Teaching with Love and Logic, Parenting with Love and Logic," and "From Innocence to Entitlement." His Love and Logic program of classroom discipline has been adopted by hundreds of school districts throughout the United States. While not taking any explicit religious stand, Fay has found a welcome audience among evangelical audiences and in Christian schools. Dobson, conversely, takes an explicitly Christian stand in his work and his views have had a wide-ranging impact--albeit indirectly--on public schools through the influence of his work on countless public school teachers and administrators. The use of the phrase "parenting" in the title of this essay is intended to function in an inclusive fashion, covering the related notions of classroom discipline, classroom management, moral education, and child-rearing. This article examines three points of comparison between the two men's philosophies: (1) power, authority, and control; (2) rules and consequences; and (3) conceptions of thinking.