Alfie Kohn (http://www.alfiekohn.org) writes and speaks widely on human behavior, education, and parenting. "Time" described him as "perhaps the country's most outspoken critic of education's fixation on grades [and] test scores." He is the author of 12 books, including "The Schools Our Children Deserve, The Case Against Standardized Testing," and, most recently, "Feel-Bad Education." This article provides a transcript of his interview with "Educational Horizons" on innovation in education.