When PhD students complain it is assumed there are problems and that troubles talk is evidence of a "sick" research candidature or culture. This paper argues that such a one-dimensional reading fails to attend closely to the academic identity work that is done when students talk together. Identity work has become a useful way of thinking about the nature of PhD study in the production of thesis texts, the development of PhD students as scholars and in the practices of everyday doctoral life. This paper extends this work by analysing various instances of PhD student "troubles talk" in everyday interactions between peers and in online spaces where PhD students congregate. Attention to troubles talk allows us to explore how doctoral students might do academic identity work in the "hinterlands" where academic subjectivity and other forms of subjectivity (wife, husband, parent, son, daughter etc.) start to blur into each other. (Contains 10 notes.)