As moves grow once more to expand selective education in the United Kingdom, this is a short report of two lively and well-attended debates at the universities of Manchester and Cambridge in the early part of 2015. Both debates were resoundingly won by those arguing against a return to a divisive system based on the 11+. Instead, audiences accepted arguments that what is needed now is consolidation of the comprehensive system drawing on the extensive work, and many successes, of the past fifty years.